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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #11 |
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Yes it would, Olympic class liners where desinged to withstand a head on impact, it would of been fine. Like I said in another 3 threads about this, so did a few others.
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Posted on: 2006/3/24 0:24
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #13 |
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Interesting, comando........your analysis is intriguing. I appreciate a different view on things.......but I want to ask you: if your analysis is true, which you do build a strong case, why do the "experts" of the Titanic disaster seem to feel the opposite? They feel like the ship would have had a better chance of surviving a head on impact. Now.....could it be that they are not engineers? But how could they state such a drastic opinion on national tv without consulting such experts in the field of engineering? My point is this.........we have people like Ken Marschall saying the ship could have survived, and we have people(like yourself) saying something else. And BOTH of you give good reasons why you believe the way you do. SO..........who's right?
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Posted on: 2006/3/28 0:02
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #14 |
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Yes....the Titanic could have been still afloat. If you analyze what would happen you can conclude that it would. If the Titanic struck head on, only one or maybe two compartments would be flooded. The enginners said that if 3-4 compartments were filled with water, the ship would float. It would have been an interesting situation. A huge ship like the Titanic stopping after just hitting the iceburg. A big jult would have been felt throughout the ship causing items to break. But none of the less she would have still floated.
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Posted on: 2006/3/30 3:12
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #15 |
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Yes,she would have survived.Also,if her engines weren't reversed before she turned,she would have missed the iceberg
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Posted on: 2006/3/30 3:59
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #16 |
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In the end, I think the ship could have survived a head on impact with the berg. I stress the phrase "could have". I am not saying it wouldn't have suffered any damage. But I do think the odds of it staying afloat would have been greater in this scenario then what happened in reality. I appreciate comando's analysis........but I am not totally convinced that hitting the berg head on would have resulted in catastrophic death and destruction.
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Posted on: 2006/4/2 16:32
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #17 |
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OK im back you guys, Ok let me tell you what i think would happen. I say that its a 50/50 chance of survival. Ok like i said earlier the engines would only slow the ship a little not stop it so that means it all depends on the slop of the iceburg. For example if the slop of the burg was paralell to the slope of the top of the bow to the bottom the ship would hit, go up a little( just like a ramp) and then come back down. While it hit and went up like lets say 20 ft up. More pressure would be applyed to the bottom of the bow. Now the titanic had a double bottom. Pretty hard to crack from the bottom but not so easy to slide it right off the ship with a forward impact. U see what im sayin? Soif the double bottom shifted just a couple of feet it would have produced major cracks along the edge where the bottom and side of the ship meet threfore filling the ship's ballast tanks and thefor making it sink front first (mabey a little slower than as to missing the burg like in the movie). NOW if the burg had a slope that was almost vertical the ship could have definatly survived. there would be an impact of the tip of the ship hitting theburg then going down to the bottom and compressing the ship about 10-20 feet b4 stopping. only 1 tank woul fill itself and mabey 2 but no more than 2. And titanic could become its own lifeboat and let everyone life. BUT we wouldent have the beautilful tip of the bow that we have today that is still very recognizeable even after 95 years of corrosin and rusting. The ship still stands strong
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Posted on: 2006/4/14 5:32
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #18 |
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Interesting analyses. But would the Titanic actually be raised about 20 feet? Would the iceberg really function as a ramp, or would te iceberg's surface give way a little as Titanic collided with it? Also will the Titanic's hull crush at the front upon impact, so both the iceberg and Titanic change structure, I would think.
All this keeps the Titanic from going up the 'ramp'. But of course it would always go up a little. You really need to know the structure of the iceberg to be conclusive about this... |
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Posted on: 2006/4/14 13:51
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Well, lets look at some things here.
1.) Titanic was indeed designed to have her first 4 compartments entirely flooded and she wouldn't sink. 2.) Many ships have taken direct head-on hits from objects and been able to limp back to port. Take the Stockholm for example, she rammed into the Andrea Doria and the Doria sank, but Stockholm floated with a destroyed bow. Of course this was in the 1950's, and the ship was built different using modern technology, but still you get the idea. Also, another ship struck an iceberg head on in the years after Titanic's disaster, this ship didn't sink. It was a small steamer, and the story isn't widely known. I'll try to find its name and when it happened. In conclusion I believe a direct hit to Titanic's bow would indeed have caused substantial damage to the ship, but I suspect that she would have definetly survived and would have been able to float until assistance arrived. |
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Posted on: 2006/4/15 22:39
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Re: Would it be better if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on? | #20 |
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I'd have to say that Titanic would have probably sank faster:
It is assumed that the bow of Titanic hit the ocean floor between 15 and 20 knots forward speed, fairly head on. The abrupt stop buckled and flayed the ships steel skin for the first two to three hundred feet of the vessel, in fact ripping tremendous holes in each side of the ship and buckling the bow down 10 to 15 degrees from horizontal at the forward well deck. This indicates the sort of damage that would have happened to Titanic had she collided head on with a berg... |
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Posted on: 2006/4/16 9:03
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